No, it wasn’t. But there’s this, there’s a complete lack of understanding or perspective of why the wild is still an important resource and why for many of the species that we allude to managing on conservation grounds, if the population isn’t gene on a sound genetic founder base, then we need to bring in more individuals from whatever source. And many times that will be the wild zoos have never been a drain on wild populations. Never. Some of the numbers of things like orangs that have come into captivity might seem large, that when you actually look at the pet trade or the animals that get slaughtered, you know, because of forestry concessions, it pa the zoo imports pale into insignificance. I, I it’s there have people, a lot of people in the zoo business have no idea of the actual real numbers and the, and the relation to the actual populations, be it historical or even current. So this idea of bringing in a few animals from the wild, and we get back to this, oh well it would be a stressful experience for the animals. Yes, it will be. And they’ll get over it. And, and your captive population, which you talk about all the time to anybody who will listen about the wonderful conservation work that you’re doing, that’s what supports it. That’s the basis it is built on.
