We’re not entirely sure exactly why, but we know that they are much more socially adept individuals when it comes to them being part of the breeding population. Once they mature, you remove bears as was routine in zoos. Bear cubs from their mum prematurely, sometimes at like six months old, they may not be good breeders or they, they may, it may take them three or four attempts before they actually succeed in rearing their own offspring. There is, in the, the zoo literature, the older zoo literature, you will often read that, oh yeah, carnivores in particular, yeah, their first litter. That’s, that’s kind of like a trial run. And they’ll, they’ll often use their lose their, their first offspring. Rubbish, absolute bullshit. The number of species that I’ve had, carnivore species across the carnivore spectrum where I’ve had individuals rear their first litter is in the majority not the minority.
