And she brought in a domestic kitchen strainer, handheld strainer, so find mesh and the enclosure floors, they were quite small exhibits and just a, a a little layer of sand. And so every day it was possible just to sweep up all the sand and then cve it through the handheld strainer and it caught all the hair. And by applying this tool that was never designed to be used in the zoo community, the, our infant survival rate went from 10% to 90%. So it’s, it’s, it’s having an ability to operate in the world around you and see, see stuff that, oh, that’d be a good idea that that’s applicable. So that’s the, so looking at things from a, from the, the macroscopic point of view, you can make a difference from the, you know, looking at, at, at the other end of the scale, you know, stopping a zoo from closure or whatever. It comes back to basically having the courage of your convictions and your, your ability to, to make your argument in a coherent and forceful way to get the point across and get people behind you. You have said that good welfare equals good conservation.