But when I was a keeper, you never saw other, other than when I went to the states and I went either out west or down south, you never saw non-Caucasian zookeepers. ’cause culturally it was still okay. That’s, that’s not like a, that’s a, that’s a, that’s a, a low cast job in India. Most of the keeper, a lot of them are illiterate, you know, and you know, and, and they’re being led by curatorial staff who may be literate, may be qualified. They’re not experienced. It, it’s hard. So when I’m working in Asia and I’m looking, okay, this is how the, the profession has changed. The, the public view of the profession has changed in the west, this is what we need to aim towards in range countries, in areas in Asia and South America where they have still have populations of what key wild animals, their zoo populations are usually the species selection or what most western zoos would give their high teeth for. But they’re just not managed as well as they might be.