And when I heard about it, it was like not on my watch. I’d only just been promoted to collection manager here at the zoo. And basically myself and a few other key colleagues, in particular, a woman called Sarah Christie. And in partnership with a select group of the fellows of the society, members of the Zoological Society, we went up against the great and the good, and we got the decision reversed. Had we not fought it like there is no Bristol Zoo today, there would’ve been no London Zoo. We wouldn’t have been having this interview in this room. So you just need to be able to have the backbone to stand up and for what you think is right, just make sure you’re bloody right, but, you know, have the nerve to stand up for your convictions. Switching subjects.
