And I appreciate that, you know, we were not exactly in a major metropolis, but I wasn’t seeing those kids anymore. There’s been a shift and I, I, I can’t explain it and I’ve, I’ve spoken to, to long-term colleagues about it, you know, are you seeing these people and they’re not, they don’t seem to be out there or certainly, you know, and mine and many of my colleagues experience we’re not seeing them anymore. So I don’t know what’s changed and it, but that, that that intensive interest in zoos, that that desire to, to know what’s behind the door that says staff only or keepers only an understanding of, of, of zoo history is absolutely crucial.