I think, oh god, I mean almost every zoo you go to, you see a different style of, of interpretation be it, I mean obviously, you know, exhibit design has had a role to play an interpretation, but even if we just talk about, you know, the signage, the, the material that explains to people what they’re looking at historically, zoos like London Zoo, you know, had a wealth of biological information. Either it was like, it was a simple sign with a common name, scientific name, range map, usually in red, whatever bit that where the animal came from. And that would be about it. And then they would have other signs with a wealth of biological and behavioral information that no one ever read or hardly anybody ever read. And so I think when, when people use an imaginative approach, I mean when they, when they opened the world of birds at the Bronx Zoo and they talked about bird behavior and they used this, this cartoon bird to explain nest building or egg laying or chick rearing or whatever it might be. And I think it, it that that cartoon image wa I think was enough to, to get people’s attention a more clinical academic approach would not with, with most of, of the zoo visitors. I had an approach here when I was running the, the lion house and we, we needed to redo the labels and I kind of overrode the education department who would normally do this. And I said, okay, right, we’re going for a new approach and ’cause I, you know, I want, as a zookeeper you want the zoo visitors to read the labels, you want them to go away better informed.