This is gonna sound a bit more like a hobby horse, but I think when it comes back to understanding how wild populations need to be managed, and as I said, you know, managing captive populations, one runs into the same problem we have. There’s an argument in many western countries about banning the import big game trophies. Now, you know, I’m not a hunter myself. I have no desire to be so, but if you speak to the serious field conservation community, well licensed, well managed big game hunting has a positive conservation role to play. If anybody is well placed to make that argument to the general public, to the politicians, to the decision makers. It’s the zoo community. But the idea of promoting an argument that involves killing animals, most zoos will run away from, nevermind, engage with. So I think that, I think that our, our ability, our, our position within society, the zoo’s position within society to be able to explain conservation, both the fluffy side and the, the side that is hard to get your head around.
