But setting up that program was sure gen A genius on my part. ’cause I wasn’t, now, occasionally I would do it myself, you know, at Christmas time or something when somebody can, but I had no, those women, mostly women were very good. If they were on vacation or something, they’d get somebody else and they all, I trained them all, you know, so they were all so, but they would take care of them themselves. And it was a, it was a great program and all the staff could take care of ’em too if somehow volunteered didn’t show up or something. But it was a, it was a good program for at that. Are you thinking this is a stepping stone to ultimately what I want to do, which was, I think at that time I thought I wanted to be a zoo director, you know, and so I, but I applied for a lot of different jobs, I think, can’t remember back then, but I, I, I applied for other jobs, but I don’t think I got any until I, the Sacramento one. But San Francisco certainly prepared, prepared me for a lot. And it was, it was a good experience.