There wasn’t a park commission and I wouldn’t go to every city council meeting, but if there was a zoo item, I was there. And we had quite an issue with master planning and stuff. So I was there quite a bit. And, and so occasionally I had to talk to the city council, but not always, but a lot of times I was just there. Fortunately, we could sit off in sort of a, a waiting room and watch it on tv and then if the zoo thing came up, we could go out there. But it was a, it was a different arrangement with Sacramento than it was with Cleveland.
