But I was always at every meeting. Fortunately I was a landlord for my boss, the park director. ’cause the parks office was in the zoo. It was the old zoo office. But they moved the zoo office in different place and used that for the parks office. So I would go to every meeting and, and they traveled with us. They, one commissioner was particularly interested in construction and he would travel with us to New York or any, or St. Louis if we were doing something for Australia or Laura Keets or whatever.
