They, they feel, they lose their hands-on experience with animals. So they don’t want to. But those that want to say if they were in Cleveland, I’d say, you know, you might wanna go, I’m not gonna put down Little Rock or a smaller zoo, but you might want to go somewhere that’s not as, doesn’t pay as well or whatever as Cleveland and get that first and then try to come back. ’cause that’s always the best thing. Now training curators as you mentioned is interest, but depends, depends on their skillset. You know, again, going back to your, one of our first questions about the history of zoo as curators are all just animal people. The soft, they didn’t have the soft skills. They were there to mostly just do the animal things and yeah, they supervised the staff the best they can. So if you have a curator that’s, as I said as the PhD they just hired in Cleveland, they, you wanna make sure that that person then has, understands the moving of animals in a zoo.
