Yeah. Well, you know, that was a long time ago. And so, you know, I, as you know, mark and, and others, most of the zoo directors, 50 years ago, we were animal people. And, and their basic job was, you know, getting animals for the zoo and, and keeping the animals in the zoo. But that’s shifted into management and, and, and really running a, running the whole zoo a lot. Of course most zoos were part of a city, so the city took care of HR and a lot of that kind of stuff. So as zoos transitioned into nonprofits, you know, they had to be more like any CEO in any business. And what’s changed, they, you know, we still have animals in the zoo, so that’s sort of stayed the same. But now obviously marketing, fundraising as, and as we all understand, technology has changed so much.