Yes, I really, I started reading about zoos probably in junior high. And I started read, the first one was a zoo in my luggage by Gerald Durrell. And, but that, and then I read all his books, you know, and that got me very much interested in zoos. So, but I didn’t know much about Zeus. But I remember in the sixth grade too, you, you know, when you had to do a talk about what profession you wanted and you could go get mineo graph copies about being a lawyer or accountant or whatever. But there was nothing on being a zoologist. But somehow I wrote a paper about being a zoologist in the sixth grade and that got me interested. But then I, I didn’t have any mentor or anybody that knew anything about zoos.
