And then they came a group of ’em, the Sioux Society president, the the Metro Parks director, the commissioner they came to, to Sacramento and interviewed me there and walked around the zoo and saw me interact with staff and stuff. And somehow they decided I was the guy. So they hired me and I moved 19 81, 19 88. I started in January 2nd, 1989. 89. I didn’t start on the first ’cause they didn’t wanna pay me for the holiday. But I, I got there, I have to tell you one other parts of the story and one of the reasons I stayed in Cleveland. So I’m going home to Sacramento after my interview there in the zoo. And I get on this plane, I’m going, my god, what do I’m going to, I mean, it’s a big zoo, it’s really kind of screwed up, but maybe I could do some good there.