Gerald Durrell was, he was God. Okay. And I, and this was his zoo. He wasn’t there at the time, sadly. But I got to go to the famous Jersey Wildlife Reservation Trust and learn and meet people from around the world, from Denmark and Mexico, Mauritius. There was an international gathering of people, New Zealand, all kinds of us. We all gathered there. All, all younger people, field conservationist, people who were just going to college to study herpetology and things like that. They accepted us. And we went to school at, at the Jersey Wildlife Preservation Trust.
