Oh, animals were definitely a part of my life. You know, I got really lucky ’cause South Bend, Indiana lived on the outside of town on Lucas Road, and there was a swamp across the street and a big woods right behind our house. So I just walked out the door and I was into wildlife. Okay. We always fed the birds. You never knew what would come to the feed or two regarding birds or raccoons or flying squirrels or deer and that kind of thing. But the swamp was across the street and I was in that swamp all the time, catching ta poles, turtles. We, we could sit at the dining room table and see birds come in, be it herons or, or wood ducks and things like that. Come into the swamp across the street, head onto the woods and back and see all kinds of animals.
