They didn’t no volunteer program. I was annoying. I was annoying to him. He didn’t wanna put up with me in any way, shape or form. And then the Northern Indiana Herpetological Society, the guys, we convinced them to let us put a display in the window of the Lion House of some of our animals, boas and turtles. And so I had a couple of my aquariums of smaller turtles there. And I said, I’m volunteering here. Now I’m, because these are my animals taking care of them. Okay, fine, fine, fine. I wanna do other volunteer work. Well, he said, fine.
