And so, you know, you know, my parents, again, I, they were very, very supportive of me and really wanted me to pursue things that I, that I wanted to do. Who else was influential? It’s a smart question. You know, like I said, my predecessor at South South Bend, he was negatively influential. ’cause it’s like, I don’t want to do things the way he did things regarding animal care and welfare, it just wasn’t right. I felt. And so he was very, very, very old school and I didn’t think it was the right thing to do. So, and there I, like, I I’ve been touched by a lot of other zoo professionals, Earl Wells, you know, who he rest in peace was at the Fort Wayne Children’s Zoo. He was really inspirational. But, but then people I read about, you know, I’m always been a Dr.
