You need to be a collaborator, a partner. You need to be a great listener. You need to really work aggressively with your community to, to, to build it, to, to, to make that mission a success and to, and to make that institution a success. So, you know, my later years working at the Lincoln Children’s Zoo, I was out a lot. I was out connecting and building the relationship with our community from politicians to schools and everything in between, donors, foundations. And so I got to meet lots of people in Lincoln. A lot people got to meet me and I became the face of the Lincoln Children’s Zoo. And, but, so it’s a whole different skill set today.