When I was growing up, you know, because I grew up in South Bend, Indiana, just 90 miles east of Chicago, could convince my folks to, let’s go to the Brookfield Zoo, the famous Brookfield Zoo. Okay. So almost annually we would do a summer trek to the Brookfield Zoo to see what they have, you know, at the Brookfield Zoo. And then I discovered the Lincoln Park Zoo as well, and, and toured the Lincoln Park Zoo. And I said, you know, mom and dad, we can drive up to Milwaukee, we can drive to Detroit, you know, go down to Fort Wayne. And so anytime I could convince my folks to drive someplace to see a zoo, they would do it again. Because mom loved animals and because my dad loved my mom, you know, we’d jump in the car, you know, for, for an excursion. I was, I was born very much a, a working class family though, so we always tailgate, had our sandwiches in the car and never could buy that zoo food. It was way too expensive. And it wasn’t very good back then either.