I was born to Joe and Mary Ann Chappo. My dad was a, he was a draftsman. He never was able to go to college, so he wasn’t considered an engineer, but he was a draftsman with a big drawing board and he could design all kinds of equipment and machines and things like that. So he was, he was a draftsman and worked for a couple different positions, places in South Bend, Indiana. Mom was a stay at home mom until we got a little bit older, and then she went up to work in the Catholic school cafeteria that was just up the road from, from where, where we lived. So she became the assistant up there. Then she took over at the cafeteria and she did that, that and position. And then my dad passed away too young when he was in his late fifties and never really finished his career.
