We did some collection assistance with each other. Okay. Up, up, up and down. We, we, we didn’t collaborate properly as much as we should have. Okay. Early on there was a little bit sense of competition and probably part of it was my fault too. ’cause I was a cocky kid and, you know, that kind of thing. But, but we then started collaborating more. They got involved with the Salt Creek Tiger Beetle Conservation Project as well. Started doing, you know, more things together and respecting each other, you know, more and more. So it, it was, I, I wish it was stronger at the time, to be honest with you, but it, it has grown.
