And he come down to Jim Robinette, oh, he’s not here. Ha ha ha. I’m like, funny guy. He was a nice guy. Not overly knowledgeable. I mean, I, I think he may have come in through our janitorial staff. So, you know, as far as knowledge about keeping animals or husbandry, not real strong in that regard. The director was Bill Breaker when I came on, and Bill had actually started as an Aquarius and quickly became curator and then assistant director of the facility. So, but it was really bare bones. As a young Aquarius.
