It was, it was a eye-opening experience for me when it, I first became the director, just a little background, I had served my highest level in the fishes department, and I was an assistant curator, and then I was a curator of marine mammals, and then I became director, director over the entire animal collection. The, an open mind is real important. I found there’s people that are very expert in certain areas. For instance, an invertebrate expert would know way more than I do. I always likened it to being, I was the baseball manager, I was the, the guy in the dugout that never got on the field, but I was managing the team. And I recognize that this guy’s a great shortstop and this is our designated hitter. This is the best of that role. You see that same thing with overseeing the entire animal collection.
