I think it probably just in the director’s mind with the oceanarium, you know, once he shared it, it became a, a bigger plan. His successor did roll out, let’s develop a master plan in a more formal way, which I was not a great enthusiast of the process, but I definitely saw the benefits and I figured this is a good thing and you know, kind of like, just suck it up and do your part. You know, this is for the betterment of the aquarium. So I could see the benefit and was there to play ball. But you know, back in the days, early days of the Oceanian design, it was pretty much, you know, what was happening in the director’s mind. And you, you indicated that you were able to do a lot of traveling.
