Yes, yes. It started when I was assistant curator of fishes where one of my responsibilities was, for instance, oiling the fish. And I have to admit, I was pretty shy about colon these vendors up there I didn’t know anything about. And, you know, asking, you know, for best price and doing price comparison and everything. And after a while I realized, oh, this is easy. And I got into it. I, I went 180, I like, you know, I kind of dicker with people a little bit and you know, some people do that naturally. It was kind of like a learning curve for me. And it was tested one time we worked with pick Fisheries, which was a local fishery purveyor in Chicago. Had been with the aquarium probably since its beginning.
