Yeah, well it was a regular participant in the curator’s meeting because that was his focus. The oceanarium, we had regular meetings, you know, sometimes he’d ask me, you know, about specific animal groups and who we were talking to about collecting and about, you know, veterinarians that might be available to work with us. I really, really enjoyed it because it’s kind of like I had earned the respect of the director and you know, he often came to me with questions that, because I was so involved with it, I could help him with, he was also presenting the Oceanarium plans initially to a number of groups. Chicago Park District, the state of Illinois. I, I think he identified like nine different groups he had to go and give the dog and pony show to, but he had to win approval of all these groups before we could get the go ahead to proceed with construction. So I really enjoyed that aspect of it. But I have to share one that really tried our relationship. We had a veterinarian, Dave Casper, there was a first in-house veterinarian, and he had come from California, but he had actually grown up in Mount Prospect as it turns out.
