I was alone initially, and then Ken Ramirez was a first staff member and that was a chance occurrence, and I’ll save you the whole story, but I went to attend a marine mammal meeting in San Antonio and a side trip after meeting was in Galveston, Texas where he worked and we took a bus back and forth and on the bus ride back, he and I sat next to each other and I started to tell him about this oceanarium exhibit we’re building and he expressed interest and about three days later, maybe a week long letter, I’m very interested in this assistant curator position and all his, you know, qualifications. And I’m like, wow, Ken Ramirez, that’d be great. You know, I knew basically of his experience training. So it was Ken and I for a while. And then we needed a few Aquarius when we started acquiring animals. I think the, for a while we were capped at like eight individuals. Eventually it grew to probably 20 and then it, it grew from there. So it was very humble beginnings.