We would, we would rely on some of the folks from Northwestern back in the day to say, we’ve got this animal and it’s sick and we don’t know where to go with it. And part implied in that was, we also don’t have a lot of the equipment that you guys have in order to do that. So one of those was a female gorilla named Mumby who at, at Lincoln Park that had a probably early in her pregnancy, had something go wrong. She lost the pregnancy and I had been around at the zoo and treated her when, when we were dealing with those signs. And then unfortunately I went on vacation and, and I was outta town at the time. My associate veterinarian was Dr. Perry Wolf. And not too long after I left, maybe a week plus after we had treated her, following her, losing the pregnancy, she started having vague signs. She wasn’t eating well, depressed, lethargic.