And he walked out to the front, addressed all the crowds standing there and said, the, the reason we did this procedure, the the dental part is pretty much done. All of you are welcome to stay and watch while we just wrap things up. But if you’re interested, we have coffee and donuts in the library down at the other end of the building and you can go, everybody put down their cameras, they grab their notebooks and they vanished. And it, it was almost like a cartoon, you know, like you, you see the clouds of dust as this big group departed for the coffee and donuts. And Lester turned to me and said, you’re all set to go. So yes, somebody, somebody working from a, a lot of experience. Now you mentioned the director of Lincoln Park was a veterinarian.