Always. We had, we had dogs. We were, we were definitely died in the wool dog people. And, you know, we had, we raised hunting dogs. Dad was big into hunting and fishing and, you know, like a, like a lot of folks, my, my brothers were always bringing home, you know, the odd baby robin or snakes, squirrels, various things. I was, the, the joke is, especially my, my oldest brother was the one that always brought home wildlife and I always took things apart and to see how they worked.
