I have, you know, sort of in the last half of my career I got involved with a ZA accreditation in a much deeper manner. I had always done a ZA accreditation inspections, but in 2000 I got asked to be on the commission. And so I did a six year stint, was off for a while, and then did another one starting in 2010. And that’s been, that’s been a focus that, you know, has been really important in this part of my career. And so I still go out and do a ZA inspections and it’s a great way to, to keep up with what’s going on. You, you’re obviously required to attend meetings and stay current on what’s going on in the field and, and you get to get out there and see other people and other ideas. I, I’m also involved in the Gorilla Species Survival Program as a, as a veterinary advisor and, you know, various other groups. I’m past president of A A ZV, so I kinda keep up with the folks in that field.