Well, I, I, I spent time with, with Dr. Beaver at the hospital again, around the time that I, that I started. So by the time, by the time I was full-time in the children’s zoo, Dr. Beaver was established as the full-time vet at the zoo. And the, the keepers there, there was one keeper position at the Zoo hospital, and obviously they had, they only worked five days a week, so on the off days, a keeper from the children’s zoo would go up and take care of the animals at the hospital. And so, you know, I got to, I, I got to see some of the, the folks working up at the hospital and I remember being recruited as a, as a keeper to, to do things like monitoring, monitoring anesthesia, you know, counting heart rates and breath rates and things like that. So, so that was sort of my first experience, kind of behind the scenes working with a veterinarian.