So they’re animal people with a good bit of zoo experience, significant people skills. And all of the ones that I know of were interested in this career track so that they made decisions to prepare them for the management side. So they weren’t, they weren’t people that were prepared just because they were zoo veterinarians, but they were zoo veterinarians that sought out other, other training or other experience in the management area. Dr. Mike Atkinson got an MBA, so has the, the business training for managing an organization. Some of the other folks that I know became staff at their zoo that were responsible for not just the veterinary side, but managing, you know, they became associate directors or, you know, folks with other management responsibilities beyond just the, the veterinary department. So I, so I don’t think, you know, I don’t think you could take any old veterinarian and drop them in the zoo director’s spot, but I think it gives somebody a very good education to start with, to that when supplemented with other experience or training, I think potentially equips them well to be a, a zoo director.
