I, I think one of the challenges historically is in, in a place that we are improving is thinking back 20 years ago, it, it was easy to talk about habitat disappearing in Africa and there deforestation in, in South America, it was easy to talk about the challenges that people were having in other continents, but when it came to things that impacted us, either locally or nationally within the US zoos might politically shy away from that a little bit because they didn’t wanna, you know, it was, it was easier to talk about something several continents away as opposed to stepping on any toes locally or regionally. And I think we’re, I think we’re getting better at that and doing better at collaborating with local conservation efforts and, and making good faith efforts to be advocates for conservation, not just internationally, but locally and regionally. Do you think that some people have said animals need to earn their ke I’m not sure. You know, my, my interpretation of animals needing to earn their ke is like, they need to have a job. They need to go out and visit with the guests or be ambassador animals. And I, I, the way I look at that and, and some of the research that’s going on here at Brookfield indicates that animals like to have a job and, and doing some of those things like going out and meeting people, being ambassador animals has shown to be one of the choices that animals might make that gives that, you know, that is enriching for them and not just guests that those animals might come in contact with. You have traveled extensively.
