I started my training, my formal zoo training. I started at St. Louis. I started working at the St. Louis Zoo in 1970, working in the refreshment stands, trying to get work in the, in the children’s zoo, and then moved into the children’s zoo. And the, the very first formal veterinary job at the St. Louis Zoo was actually in pathology. So when I came back and did my residency, pathology was a huge part of that. My success, my predecessor here at Brookfield came from the National Zoo where pathology was, you know, on an equal footing with the veterinary staff. And so I’ve always thought that pathology was a critical part of zoo medicine.