I think he was pretty hard nosed. I mean, we had some incidents that took place and he was I think he was pretty tough. He didn’t spend a lot of time in the zoo, but when he found out about things that were going on that shouldn’t have been going on, I mean, he did act on them. I remember we had a keeper that was really not a very nice individual and we had an annex down behind the Reptile House, we kept a lot of excess animals and mostly primates and evidently, he was caught really hurting this one monkey. I don’t know where it was. I think it was in a cappuccino or something. And Walker came down, owl monkey. Okay, it was an owl monkey.
