Walker, yeah. He’s running it. Yeah, and I tell you, one of the things that was going on back then is that the National Zoo even though it was under the federal government and under Smithsonian, the salaries and operating budget came from the District of Columbia. So what Walker was doing in order to make his position, I guess, seem more important in he was doing a really great job, was every year he would return money that had been budgeted so that it said we can run the zoo, we don’t have to use all this money. And so the following year, they go to ask for more money and they’d cut them. And so the money started to dwindle pretty badly and when Ted took over, I mean, he had a really major issue on how to deal with both the Smithsonian and the district government in budgetary matters. And the keepers were being paid lousy wages.
