And I did, I stood up and I said, “Excuse me, but that is absolutely not true. I don’t know where you got that information, but it’s not true. And I resent the fact that you’re standing up in front of this entire audience here and telling something that is absolutely not true.” And I said, “After the discussion here, I will show you what we’ve done in the last three years, we have sent lots of keepers to the AZA meetings. We’ve got them in classes, they’re taking classes now in management and whatever.” And I showed him afterwards. And when he came back the second time I remember, and he was gonna do another presentation, he came up to me and he said, “Please don’t do that to me again, I guarantee you, I won’t make a mistake again.” And so he was very humble, but I mean, that report was just totally full of untruths. And it made the zoo look really, really bad and it killed Spelman. I mean, it really did on top of what was going on with the Washington Post, so anyway.
