And when Spelman got the directorship, that’s what she was faced with. And instead of saying, well, we can’t do that, she went along with the secretary’s recommendation based on what Mike had told him. And they were gonna shut down CRC, which really just fractured the zoo in Front Loyal incredibly because the scientists were absolutely livid over the fact that that was being considered. And I spent a lot of time with Spelman and with CRC people that it wasn’t gonna be closed down. There was no reason. And so in the end, it didn’t get shut down, but it was surely on Mike’s shoulders that facility was failing dramatically because it wasn’t supported at all. And Chris left and Monfort took over, but I mean, all he could do was kind of hold things together and it just kept getting worse and worse. So anyway, I don’t know what else to say about Mike.