And then bring it back. And Ted did involve a lot of us and he involved me a lot in a number of projects. And in fact, the assistant director or the director for maintenance and facilities, I worked really closely with him. And he had me involved with also other major exhibits. I mean, I worked with the architects really closely on the gibbon exhibit. And one thing I learned early on with the architects is that they don’t listen to what you tell them. They do what they think is the right thing to do. And I literally had two architectural firms canned because I got so tired of having them bring in plans that we had looked at two weeks earlier and made changes on, which they didn’t include because they didn’t think the changes warranted changing.
