I think the biggest issue that is with anybody that’s in the zoo profession is that you get into the zoo profession because you really have a affinity and love for animals. But as you get more and more into management, you come to realize that if you don’t have a good feel for how to deal with people and to make people do what you’d like them to do willingly without having to beat them over the head, you never gonna make it as a good curator or director or any position within the zoo profession that requires you to have daily contact with either the public or the staff. And it’s tough, it’s a tough job to manage people. And I think that’s one of the issues that we deal with today in that I think for the most part, the people I work with both at national and also with other zoos in the curatorial field had a pretty good grasp of the staff that they had to work with, and they did a pretty good job. Today, I mean, we’ve got curators at national that have no clue about dealing with people. I mean, they’re focused on the animals and I think the staff comes secondary. and I’m not sure where that’s the case in all zoos, and it’s really, really hard to find curatorial staff now that have the experience both with the collections and also with having a good grasp of what it takes to manage people. And if you can’t manage people, you’re not gonna be able to run your collections.