I mean, not only did I learn a lot, but I met a lot of people. He would send every one of his curatorial staff, almost everyone, every single year to either the regional conferences or to the primary convention for the AZA. And it gave us an opportunity to meet with our peers and talk about mutual things that were both good and bad. And I tell you the truth, Mark, it doesn’t happen now. It just doesn’t happen. I don’t know what goes on in other zoos, but at National, it started to stop when Robinson took over and it hasn’t really improved a whole lot. And I don’t know whether it’s a question of just budgetary issues, but there’s a bit different mindset. The other example is that we started the curatorial intern program at National Zoo, and it was a really good success.
