And this was before Ted had decided to look for a facility similar to that for the zoo. And I worked with both Ted and John Perry on looking at sites for Front Royal or what was to become Front Royal. And I mean, we looked at all kinds of areas that were excess for the Navy Department. And we were very fortunate that one of the supporters of the zoo brought to the Ted’s attention that this facility, Front Royal, was gonna come up and we were able to get it. we’ll talk about that. Okay. I mean, he would just kind of at the spurred moment say, Xanten, go to go to Philadelphia, go to New York, look at the new nocturnal exhibit, come back and tell me what you think.
