As a matter of fact, I was in, and in fact, I’ll tell you one really interesting story. I was working with Jack a lot and I was in this Small Mammal Building at the time. And at the time the building was, it was full of animals, but they were still in the old wire mesh cages. And there were a few glass fronted cages, but mostly they were barricades with a branch in them and in a nest box and that was it. And we decided we were gonna start trying to do some naturalistic exhibits. And so we go out and find rocks and soil and start building these exhibits. And the keepers in the building at the time would destroy them, literally. I mean, we come in the next morning and they’d host them down.