It was sometimes tough and then sometimes even with the capture gun, we couldn’t get animals moved. And we had a situation. In fact, I gave you a picture of us trying to get that rhino out of the crate. It took us forever to get him in and then he wouldn’t come out and we had to physically pull him out of the crate. I think the hardest situation that I had to deal with was we had the photo of the rhino being pulled out of the crate was up in the delicate hoofstock building. We had moved it from the Elephant House up there and they stayed in that outdoor exhibit for about three years. And then when we got the word that we were gonna get giant pandas in 1972, Ted Reed said, “We gotta get rid of the rhinos.” They just wouldn’t Northern white rhinos. So we contacted San Diego and they agreed to greet to take them.