Well, we had, we were lucky enough at London to have a very well staffed architectural department, which was there primarily for our own purposes. But because we had those skills on site, we were approached by, over, over the, over a period of years, approached by a number of zoos, particularly in the Middle East. But we actually had, we had zoo, I remember Tripoli, Libya, Cairo, all the Emirates, Saudi, Iraq, Baghdad, a number of Indian zoos all asked for help over, probably over a period of, oh, something like 15 years. And so our own architecture department helped by us animal people. And in many instances the marketers and you know, one had a pretty comprehensive staff at London in terms of, of the variation of skills. And so we started building up a consultancy business with, with many of these institutions, which involved, well everything really, from either initial design through much more complex detailed design through supervising the building of, now usually we worked with other mar other, particularly other architectural companies. ’cause there was no way, there was no way that our small architecture group could, could handle all of that. So we landed up with quite a number of different partnerships, mostly of architectural groups and in some cases with other colleagues zoos.