I remember we, we, we gave up after a while doing it, but we had a, a senior staff lunch table in the Fellows restaurant where anybody sort of a curator level and above was supposed to go every day for lunch because it was a way that also we could, you know, compare notes. But it was very, it was very much that only certain people could go and have lunch in the fellows, in the fellows restaurant. So it, I mean, thanks to the three directors Rollins and Len Goodwin particularly, it was, it was a very good, it was actually a very good environment to work and learning, but it was a very tightly controlled environment in terms of, let’s say a sort of entrepreneurial futuristic approach to where London ought to be going. And that, you know, that remained to the, up to the time that I, that I left London.
