They were, they were really, you know, well there were amazing functions and really quite, you know, you were sort of up close and personal with many members of the royal family at those, they were, they were quite a meal as you can imagine in Buckingham Palace. So many, and I used to get, when I was in the ve running the veterinary department in London used to go from time to time to Buckingham Palace because of, they had quite a collection of wild foul including flamingos. And there were times when, you know, I would get a call to go to the palace and take a look at one bird or another, you know, flamingos with, as they often get sort of bumblefoot, you know, infections of the lower foot and so on. And I, I do remember one day when the queen happened to be in the gar in the Buckingham Palace Gardens and came down and we had this long conversation, must have been, you know, 30, 40 minute conversation about staphylococcal bumblefoot in flamingos if you, if you can imagine that. So, and, and she took a lot of interest in, in what was going on, particularly in, you know, all, all around her. I actually came across the queen first as a choir boy at St. Paul’s Cathedral when I was, you know, in rough and surplus and singing in the choir in the cathedral. Again, she was, you know, for state occasions she and her mother too met her mother, quite her mother actually the queen mother was, was patron of the friends of St.